Operator11 — Chat Transcript of "SL WIR 23Mar Part 2"

(00:12) ‹malburns› WB Stu

(00:18) ‹stuwarf› yay...I wallk alllllllooooooooonnnnnnnnnneeeeee!

(00:31) ‹malburns› wb all

(00:53) ‹Sougent› This is a strange video.....

(00:57) ‹Sougent› ;)

(00:57) ‹stuwarf› its not a show without this

(00:57) ‹fleep513› afk one sec oven is beeping at me. brb!

(01:03) ‹malburns› he he

(01:41) ‹isfullofcrap› I was just thinking "I haven't heard that I WALK ALONE!" video

(02:01) ‹TaraYeats› hah crap

(02:44) ‹TaraYeats› HI Sikovit

(02:51) ‹SIKOVIT› sorry I'm late

(02:59) ‹SIKOVIT› hello tara

(04:34) ‹Sougent› It's a great event, I've been to the previous 2 but couldn't go this time.

(05:36) ‹Sougent› I think the whole thing was posted somewhere, or thought there was.

(05:49) ‹Sougent› Are you signed up and all that

(05:52) ‹Sougent› ?

(05:55) ‹isfullofcrap› (sorta like singingarc, eh)

(05:57) ‹Sougent› Hmmm...

(06:10) ‹Sougent› Well, I'd talk to John or Rissa

(06:17) ‹Sougent› Let them know.

(07:18) ‹Sougent› SL doesn't really fit the big business paradigm at the moment

(07:23) ‹fleep513› yes here!

(07:57) ‹Sougent› stability might help

(07:58) ‹isfullofcrap› "Any sufficiently advanced serious is indistinguishable from silly."

(08:04) ‹fleep513› the latest SLoodle release is very promising, ties together SL with external learning management systems

(08:26) ‹fleep513› but yes, hard to sell it to administrators when stability is a serious problem

(09:40) ‹fleep513› Oh I missed that one

(09:45) ‹malburns› Rissa is joining us in a second

(09:49) ‹fleep513› Yay Rissa!

(10:12) ‹malburns› Hi Vampyre

(10:14) ‹Sougent› Yes, I posted a blog post on one. I think I blogged it

(10:27) ‹VampyreMeLz› HI

(10:33) ‹fleep513› Hi Vampyre =)

(10:48) ‹fleep513› Time for a sewer trawl!

(10:49) ‹VampyreMeLz› i dun hear n e thing

(10:49) ‹Sougent› sewer rats?

(10:54) ‹SIKOVIT› lol

(10:55) ‹Sougent› Hmmm.....

(11:09) ‹isfullofcrap› Actually, my first build was in the sewers of Podcast Island.

(11:20) ‹fleep513› VCE

(11:26) ‹fleep513› Virtual Collaborative Environments

(11:28) ‹fleep513› Hm

(11:33) ‹fleep513› educators mostly use MUVE

(11:41) ‹fleep513› Multi User Virtual Environments

(11:43) ‹malburns› is Vamp Rissa?

(11:50) ‹VampyreMeLz› ooow

(11:53) ‹VampyreMeLz› claws!

(11:54) ‹VampyreMeLz› lol

(12:00) ‹fleep513› but I kind of like VCE too

(12:00) ‹malburns› he he

(12:23) ‹malburns› oh - i see sweet kitten too i think

(12:27) ‹fleep513› it certainly lets us share our imaginations in new ways

(12:46) ‹fleep513› Oh! Yep haven't tried that but meant to do that today

(12:47) ‹malburns› oh yes

(12:49) ‹fleep513› the new AjaxLife

(13:08) ‹Sougent› I did blog about one of the RL uses of SL for testing a tram thingee.

(13:12) ‹fleep513› If I don't do something with inventory soon I might have to cry.

(13:18) ‹Sougent› http://sladvofsougent.blogspot.com/2007/12/second-life-not-just-about-gratuitous.html

(13:34) ‹ZoeConnolly› 129 members of SLBloggers Ning.com so far

(13:41) ‹fleep513› Thanks Sougent

(13:53) ‹VampyreMeLz› huh lol

(14:11) ‹ZoeConnolly› http://secondlifebloggers.ning.com/

(14:35) ‹SIKOVIT› VAMPS

(14:39) ‹VampyreMeLz› yessum

(14:40) ‹VampyreMeLz› lol

(14:48) ‹TaraYeats› fleep - agree on inventory! everytime I have to get something out of inventory, I cringe

(15:06) ‹Sougent› Yes, that was cool, the Ustream big

(15:08) ‹Sougent› bit

(15:50) ‹Sougent› Interesting hairpiece

(15:54) ‹YogiFish› hey hey VampryMelz :)))

(16:00) ‹Sougent› Hairless cat?

(16:01) ‹Sougent› ;)

(16:04) ‹isfullofcrap› /me is not about to put Nardo on his head

(16:05) ‹malburns› Hi Potty Noodle

(16:07) ‹VampyreMeLz› not close

(16:07) ‹pottynoodle› wazzzup

(16:07) ‹VampyreMeLz› lol

(16:19) ‹Sougent› Ifyou put Nardo on your head, you'd lose it

(16:34) ‹Sougent› Your head would be confetti

(16:39) ‹Sougent› I'm me.

(16:41) ‹pottynoodle› i eat kitten liver

(17:07) ‹SIKOVIT› I never miss a malburn show

(17:22) ‹fleep513› back again

(17:33) ‹fleep513› I liked Christian Renaud's talk at Life2.0 too

(17:33) ‹ZoeConnolly› my brother is trying to get in too, but Op11 hasn't sent any confirmation emails

(17:34) ‹fleep513› from Cisco

(17:40) ‹SIKOVIT› I joined 2nd life to hunt SEWER RATS!

(17:49) ‹fleep513› talked about future of work spaces

(17:52) ‹TaraYeats› LOL Sikovit

(18:03) ‹fleep513› using virtual spaces to replaces offices and conference halls

(18:21) ‹TaraYeats› oh yea, fleep - I missed mentioning that

(18:27) ‹pottynoodle› im a little boy who gets it hard in the ass

(18:40) ‹fleep513› Oh dear.

(18:41) ‹Sougent› lol

(18:42) ‹VampyreMeLz› he is actually a veiled chameleon fyi but i request and u ignored so now he walked away

(18:46) ‹ZoeConnolly› okay, not at all SL related!

(18:47) ‹VampyreMeLz› </3

(18:48) ‹YogiFish› strange kid :(

(18:50) ‹fleep513› we've been griefed!

(18:54) ‹stuwarf› yay n00bs

(19:00) ‹ZoeConnolly› Griefer Alert!

(19:01) ‹VampyreMeLz› lol

(19:29) ‹TaraYeats› big chameleon!

(19:40) ‹VampyreMeLz› yap

(19:42) ‹VampyreMeLz› lol

(20:06) ‹pottynoodle› im a little t pot

(20:19) ‹malburns› sorry folks - trying to sort out invasion here

(20:25) ‹pottynoodle› wtf was tht

(20:33) ‹VampyreMeLz› lol

(20:33) ‹TaraYeats› Hi QueenofSpain :-)

(20:37) ‹malburns› Hi Queen

(20:48) ‹malburns› return to you shortly vamp

(20:50) ‹fleep513› that 20 mill accounts is wrong isn't it? last I saw was closing in on 13 mil

(20:53) ‹Sougent› The new book is at Barnes and Noble, 20% off.

(20:55) ‹fleep513› Hi QueenofSpain!

(21:23) ‹fleep513› I liked Au's book

(21:34) ‹Sougent› It's pretty, but a bit expensive

(21:40) ‹fleep513› but thought some of his catch phrases for explaining certain phenomena were really silly

(21:43) ‹malburns› this broadcast was just 2 days before Philip left as CEO

(21:47) ‹fleep513› "BeBop Reality"?

(22:00) ‹ZoeConnolly› I don't have his new book, yet

(22:16) ‹fleep513› Definitely worth getting or checking out from the library

(22:27) ‹TaraYeats› fleep - what did he use that phrase to describe?!

(22:28) ‹ZoeConnolly› Cool

(22:39) ‹Sougent› Would like to read it, but $25 even with 20% off is a bit much.

(22:46) ‹fleep513› He posits that SL enabled "BeBop Reality"

(22:58) ‹fleep513› like a live jazz performance is about creatives improvising

(23:08) ‹fleep513› same with co-creating content in the world

(23:15) ‹TaraYeats› ahh

(23:17) ‹fleep513› can feed off one another, create and improvise with one another

(23:39) ‹fleep513› He also talks about "Mirrored Flourishing"

(23:40) ‹TaraYeats› the observation works, but his label doesn't work

(23:55) ‹fleep513› that as you feel empowered in your SL, you also become empowered in your RL

(24:03) ‹Sougent› Looks like the skilift at wengen/voss

(24:12) ‹Sougent› Probably not.

(24:29) ‹TaraYeats› Svarga

(24:48) ‹Sougent› Yeah, that place is cool

(24:55) ‹ZoeConnolly› I've heard that concept Fleep, and it works well with people with certain disabilites

(25:03) ‹fleep513› Here come's Au's zinger...

(25:28) ‹fleep513› Wonder if Philip was annoyed that he mentions she left SL very grumpy about the platforms limitations

(27:13) ‹malburns› Like AQu's comparison with "Jazz" in abstract way

(27:15) ‹Sougent› No, I don't think he's annoyed at the question, maybe annoyed because the company can't manage to do better

(27:34) ‹Sougent› If I were the CEO, I'd be annoyed that we couldn't do better.

(28:15) ‹Sougent› They need to hire me to run the joint....

(28:17) ‹Sougent› ;)

(28:28) ‹fleep513› THIS part made me laugh out loud

(28:49) ‹fleep513› Back in the BBS days, we used to say "Summer slowdown!"

(28:54) ‹malburns› lol Sougent

(28:58) ‹TaraYeats› yup, fleep

(29:08) ‹fleep513› the more things change.. :)

(29:13) ‹TaraYeats› ditto in chat communities - August was slow slow slow

(29:14) ‹Sougent› He has a point, it's summer coming and people will be spending time outside

(29:20) ‹TaraYeats› things start picking up again in Sept

(29:23) ‹fleep513› nod yes it is true

(29:31) ‹fleep513› but it's just funny to hear him explain it

(29:32) ‹fleep513› :)

(29:59) ‹fleep513› it got to be something of a joke, every dip in participation or join rates for anything - Summer slowdown! ;)

(30:03) ‹Sougent› Wonder if the usage of the teen grid goes up during summer when some are on vacation (assuming not year round schools)

(30:10) ‹TaraYeats› lol fleelp

(30:27) ‹fleep513› teen grid participation rates are dismal all year round

(30:30) ‹TaraYeats› Sougent - it does in June! used to see the snerts get very frisky as soon as school was out

(30:42) ‹fleep513› except for the premier programs using it in schools, or like Global Kids

(30:53) ‹fleep513› it really is a ghost town in the teen grid

(31:22) ‹fleep513› the vast majority who start there quickly create accounts on the main grid

(31:32) ‹fleep513› as long as they don't get caught..

(31:44) ‹Sougent› I'm sure the smart ones don't

(31:49) ‹fleep513› right.

(32:04) ‹Sougent› yay

(32:06) ‹Sougent› he's back

(32:29) ‹ZoeConnolly› the video filtered out the griefers

(32:49) ‹Sougent› Ah, he wasn't too bad

(33:04) ‹fleep513› yeah I liked that talk too Mal

(33:13) ‹fleep513› I actually wrote up notes but haven't posted them anywhere

(33:21) ‹Sougent› Hopefully the Life20 people recorded all taht streaming

(33:26) ‹fleep513› was there?!

(33:28) ‹fleep513› Wow!

(33:30) ‹fleep513› nice.

(33:47) ‹malburns› yes - think Life 2 progs will be online in couple of weeks

(33:52) ‹fleep513› What's WoWs usually concurrency?

(33:54) ‹stuwarf› i think we will reach a record today

(33:56) ‹fleep513› er usual

(34:01) ‹Sougent› I think it might have been because of life20

(34:09) ‹stuwarf› lower for each server

(34:14) ‹Sougent› The concurrency, that is.

(34:24) ‹stuwarf› since WoW has many servers

(34:26) ‹Sougent› Extra people maybe coming in to check it out.

(34:51) ‹fleep513› I've been doing a lot of telecommuting through SL for the last year, and it has it's pros and cons for sure.

(35:13) ‹Sougent› SL's not quite ready to be the best option for telecommuting.

(35:14) ‹fleep513› Newbies think if you're not in your office in SL you aren't avaialble, even online indicators they don't IM you, so I end up being "tied" to one place even in the virtual world.

(35:16) ‹Sougent› IMO

(35:37) ‹fleep513› not for enterprise, but still a good place to experiment and try things out

(35:40) ‹fleep513› GREEN CONFERENCING

(35:41) ‹fleep513› :)

(36:02) ‹malburns› there are devices for office that can IM you anywhere inworld Fleep if have visitors

(36:14) ‹Sougent› It's got potential for those who do architecture/engineering

(36:20) ‹fleep513› John Zhaoying: CarbonNeutral.Ltd did this computation for us. Doing Life 2.0 in the real world would cost 200 TONS of carbon per day, so 1200 TONS of carbon, plus a huge, non-recyclable waste stream. Life 2.0 in reality costs about 4 tons of carbon - 20%

(36:29) ‹fleep513› (saved those stats)

(36:46) ‹Sougent› Yeah, I think it's got a future for conferences

(37:00) ‹Sougent› Especially for those organizations that can't afford a real life conf.

(37:19) ‹fleep513› should we use that instead of the mogulus address?

(37:27) ‹fleep513› ok thanks Mal

(37:54) ‹Sougent› You can't put live chat on netvibes?

(38:38) ‹TaraYeats› if you can, Sougent, Mal hasn't figured it out yet !

(38:55) ‹Sougent› Can one sign up for a free account there?

(39:12) ‹fleep513› got it from twitter, thanks Mal

(39:27) ‹TaraYeats› Sougent - yes, netvibes is free

(39:37) ‹Sougent› I may see what I can do

(39:40) ‹fleep513› wow nice article from science daily, thanks Mal!

(39:48) ‹TaraYeats› and youi can customize every whichway for feeds you want, and making a page or pages public

(40:12) ‹fleep513› Have a great week guys! Thanks for the show as always!

(40:15) ‹fleep513› wave!

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